after some internal debate about if I could go or not I decided to go to a small dutch tournament. It's a small tournament and should be a nice place to learn how to wield my Saim Hann army. So I made a little army list which contain evertything I think I will be needing over there. It's blatendly stolen frommy friend Fritz over at way of Saim Hann with some minor changes to make it easier for me to build it and get it on the table.
1700 pts. DragonRiderClan
HQ:
Farseer: Rune Armor, Singing Spear, Ghosthelm, Shuriken Pistol, Runes Of Warding, Runes Of Witnessing, Spirit Stones, Doom, Fortune = 188
5 Warlocks: Rune Armor, Witchblade, Jetbike, Shuriken Pistol, Destructor = 275
Troops:
6 Jetbikes: 1 Shuriken Cannons = 142
6 Jetbikes: 1 Shuriken Cannon = 142
10 Dire Avengers: Exarch dual cat bladestorm = 152
1 Wave Serpent: T-Brightlance, Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Star Engines = 170
Fast Attack:
2 Vypers: Star Cannons, 2 Shuriken Cannons = 160
2 Vypers: Star Cannons, 1 Shuriken Cannons = 150
2 Vypers: Brightlance, 2 Shuriken Cannons = 170
Heavy Support:
1 Fire Prism: Spirit Stones, Star Engines, Holofields, Shuriken Cannon = 185
1698
So what do you guys think? I hope I stand a chance I won't have a lot of practice games under my belt since it's only a month away and I'll be building at to speed just to get all the models assembled for the tournament. all the stuff that's bold is the stuff I don't have yet or stuff I'm borroiwng.
Cheers CJ
Well been contemplating todrop 2 of the vypers (don't know which yet) for a second Fire Prism to get me a twin linked S10 ap1 or S6 ap 3 Shot.
ReplyDeletewhat do you think about this?
Cheers CJ
Is the Farseer not on a jetbike? cuz he will have a hard time keeping up with the army if he's not mounted.
ReplyDeleteI really like Cj's idea, I would do if you can. The ablity to strike with a str 10 weapon 60" on the table is handy & has a psychological impact as well.
Can you put another cannon in the jetbike squads?
The way you have a lot of points in most of your units, is IMO kind of dangerous. Playing a Saim-hann force is always being outnumbered but keeping points down on the units and simply taking more units is best. This kind of army doesn't take casualties well, every loss is felt. When sinking lots of points in small units it is felt more so. SeerCouncil excluded.
Hope this helps... :)
Hey tanks for the suggestion Yeah he should be on a Jetbike I forgot to write it down. I'll change that now. I'm CJby the way. I just don't know which vypers to take out if I do.
ReplyDeleteIf I take 2 Fire Prismsthe list would looklike this:
Farseer: Rune Armor, Singing Spear, Ghosthelm, Shuriken Pistol, Runes Of Warding, Runes Of Witnessing, Spirit Stones, Doom, Fortune, Jet bike = 188
5 Warlocks: Rune Armor, Witchblade, Jetbike, Shuriken Pistol, Destructor = 275
Troops:
6 Jetbikes: 2 Shuriken Cannons = 142
6 Jetbikes: 1 Shuriken Cannon = 142
10 Dire Avengers: Exarch dual cat bladestorm = 152
1 Wave Serpent: T-Brightlance, Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Star Engines = 170
Fast Attack:
2 Vypers: Star Cannons = 140
2 Vypers: Brightlance = 150
Heavy Support:
1 Fire Prism: Spirit Stones, Holofields, Shuriken Cannon = 170
1 Fire Prism: Spirit Stones, Holofields, Shuriken Cannon = 170
1699
how does that look?
Cheers CJ
lol, I realized that after I had posted.... :)
ReplyDeleteThe vypers: I would make all starcannons, you have plenty of anti tank with the seercouncil and prisms.
I sent you a pdf, it is what I use to cause headaches for my opponents. I just don't feel like typing it all here.... :)
hope it helps...
Go with the second list, but use all starcannons, that would be my suggestion. Also, don't be afraid to just fire the fireprism separate whenever you can. The only time you should really be teaming them up is when one of them doesn't have line of sight to anything worth shooting. Too many people try and combo them up for every shot and they just aren't as effective that way. Good Luck, and get building!
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ReplyDeleteAfter some more feedback from L-O and dutch forum I Trimmed the list even further to this:
ReplyDeleteFarseer: Rune Armor, Singing Spear, Ghosthelm, Shuriken Pistol, Runes Of Warding, Spirit Stones, Doom, Fortune, Jet bike = 178
5 Warlocks: Rune Armor, Witchblade, Jetbike, Shuriken Pistol, Embolden, Enhance, 3 Destructor = 275
Troops:
7 Jetbikes: 2 Shuriken Cannons = 174
7 Jetbikes: 2 Shuriken Cannons = 174
10 Dire Avengers: Exarch dual cat bladestorm = 152
1 Wave Serpent: T-Brightlance, Spirit Stones = 145
Fast Attack:
2 Vypers: Star Cannons = 140
2 Vypers: Star Cannons = 140
Heavy Support:
1 Fire Prism: Spirit Stones, Holofields = 160
1 Fire Prism: Spirit Stones, Holofields = 160
1698pts.
I dropped the star engines and shuricanon from the serpent and the runes of withnessing of my farseer (have Embolden to take care of that) giving me 46 pts. total I bought 2 extra guardians for that giving me the list
what do you think?
Cheers CJ
After even more feedback from my blog and dutch forum I Trimmed the list even further to this:
ReplyDeleteFarseer: Rune Armor, Singing Spear, Ghosthelm, Shuriken Pistol, Runes Of Warding, Spirit Stones, Doom, Fortune, Jet bike = 178
6 Warlocks: Rune Armor, Witchblade, Jetbike, Shuriken Pistol, Embolden, Enhance, 4 Destructor = 330
Troops:
6 Jetbikes: 2 Shuriken Cannons = 152
6 Jetbikes: 2 Shuriken Cannons = 152
10 Dire Avengers: Exarch dual cat bladestorm = 152
1 Wave Serpent: T-Brightlance, Spirit Stones = 145
Fast Attack:
2 Vypers: Star Cannons = 140
2 Vypers: Star Cannons = 140
Heavy Support:
1 Fire Prism: Holofields = 150
1 Fire Prism: Spirit Stones, Holofields = 160
1699 pts.
I dropped the star engines and shuricanon from the serpent and the runes of withnessing of my farseer (have Embolden to take care of that) and a spirit stone of the Prism giving me 56 pts. total I bought a Extra destrucor warlock for that giving me the list.
what do you think?
Cheers CJ
Another option, as long as you are getting rid of the spirit stones, would be to drop the warlock you added in for another fire prism. Running 3 bare prisms (no upgrades at all) can work if you keep them at their awesome long range preventing return fire. Of course 3 with no holofields would play a lot differently than two with, as they would be able to dish out more damage, but not be great for contesting in the end game. It would be more about killing your opponent of their objective rather than stealing it. I've seen 3 Prisms and it is nasty, but might not fit your playstyle, who knows. More options are always better.
ReplyDeletewell I think that would be a bit tomuch especially since that's another €100 on 2 models ;) a lot of money and I'm not planning on running 3 prism anyways. :)It's very tempting I know but it's a bit to much.
ReplyDeleteCheers CJ
Seriously great list for the dakka! I really don't like putting brightlances on Vypers, but as Fritz says, you can work around that by getting cover saves for them, and using Guide.
ReplyDeleteHaven't tested that yet, but it sounds very.. sound!